tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29640480.post7737105250767279142..comments2024-03-21T18:54:06.548-07:00Comments on Old Enough to Know Better: Not Pretty, ButSteve Perryhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12079658447270792228noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29640480.post-33712481327231583362009-08-13T18:56:57.845-07:002009-08-13T18:56:57.845-07:00Thanks. I'll relay that to him. The how-it-fee...Thanks. I'll relay that to him. The how-it-feels-from-the-inside being critical, and the visuals being relatively unimportant absolutely does makes sense to me; (I'm often giving a close variation of that answer to people who want to learn tai chi by video or watching a teacher.) It seems unlikely, but maybe he can find a silat teacher in Japan somewhere...Some guynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29640480.post-43226960425784154502009-08-13T15:51:24.167-07:002009-08-13T15:51:24.167-07:00JL --
I think the jackets were because it was a c...JL --<br /><br />I think the jackets were because it was a chilly day. Shot in, I think Eugene? Maybe Salem? We have winter up here, remember.<br /><br />I supposed there could have been padding under the coats, but nobody I talked to admitted to it, and they don't look that bulky.Steve Perryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12079658447270792228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29640480.post-32419615678368065872009-08-13T15:28:58.802-07:002009-08-13T15:28:58.802-07:00What an entertaining 10 seconds of video! I neglec...What an entertaining 10 seconds of video! I neglect your blog for a few days, Steve, and this is what you give us? I should ignore you more often! Ha!<br /><br />It's amazing how seemingly effortlessly he keeps something between himself and the knife -- sometimes other people, sometimes the wielder himself. He makes the fight a mess, but that's by design to keep from being easily assaulted. Better to be in the eye of the storm, I suppose. <br /><br />The bump at :21 by the guy in black was pretty nasty -- great audio with it. It definitely wasn't the most controlled fall, as he lands on his side, and doesn't use his hands to help absorb the impact. <br /><br />Normally, these guys would have pads and gatorbacks on. And their baggy attire would suggest that's just what they did. But if you say that's not the case, I believe you. <br /><br />I almost wish there were a few more seconds in the clip so I could laugh/rock out to the cheesy music at the end.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29640480.post-89694750952542646102009-08-12T18:59:58.710-07:002009-08-12T18:59:58.710-07:00It's not bukti's fault that what looks goo...It's not bukti's fault that what looks good on screen and what is effective out on the street are two totally different things.<br /><br />Maybe he should have thrown in an X block agaisnt the knife, along with that kick. ;)AF1noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29640480.post-59247144234660449412009-08-12T18:20:02.287-07:002009-08-12T18:20:02.287-07:00SG --
There are all kinds of silat books out ther...SG --<br /><br />There are all kinds of silat books out there, but none from our particular version. I've seen some that break down the motions to step-by-step, but to be honest, I don't think you can learn this stuff out of a book or from a video without some hands-on supplementation. It's not about the tricks, but about the underlying principles, and it's hard enough to get those with a teacher showing it to you.<br /><br />What it looks like from the outside is not as important as how it feels from the inside, if that makes any sense. <br /><br />If you have a b.g. in silat, you might could make sense of a book or vid on the subject, but without that, you'll probably learn just enough to get yourself in trouble if you try to use it.Steve Perryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12079658447270792228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29640480.post-80686836083119576652009-08-12T14:46:23.298-07:002009-08-12T14:46:23.298-07:00I still kick myself that I didn't follow up on...I still kick myself that I didn't follow up on a friend's offer of introduction to the Dethouars - (I live in Colorado) - years ago; I could have actually learned something practical.<br /><br /> Anyway, a friend in Japan (with a severe muscular disability) wants me to send him silat books, but he wants illustration-and-instruction books, rather than just general background, history, and color. I've sent him Draeger's Weapons Art of Indonesia but he wants books with more that he could actually practice. Any suggestions, Steve, or anyone who knows of any such silat books, for that matter? (I know of Pentjak Silat by Draeger et al, but probably can't afford it.) <br /><br /> Thanks in advance for any suggestions...Some guynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29640480.post-79005967038650477312009-08-12T14:30:23.590-07:002009-08-12T14:30:23.590-07:00(Hate Typos...had to fix it!)
True, each "ba...(Hate Typos...had to fix it!)<br /><br />True, each "battleground" requires an adjustment to your tactics and plan. When you get to four, or more, attackers at once you usually have only a couple of options: be elsewhere (which involves engaging with anyone as little as possible while you imitate "The Flash"); or create such a spectacle with one unfortunate volunteer that the "mob" loses heart and breaks up.<br /><br />Plan A has a much higher success rate, regardless of where you score on the 0-10 scale! Even knowing that, it is truly amazing how many people (guys, in particular) allow their ego to talk them into writing checks....Stanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16558678258455039973noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29640480.post-22312764160840614032009-08-12T14:27:49.835-07:002009-08-12T14:27:49.835-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Stanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16558678258455039973noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29640480.post-23601205976206118252009-08-12T13:22:29.741-07:002009-08-12T13:22:29.741-07:00Yep, multiple opponents require fancy dancing if y...Yep, multiple opponents require fancy dancing if you stay on the floor. In real life, he'd have just hot-footed it down the alley at the first sign of trouble. But this isn't a how-to-run video, you don't need a martial artist to teach you that. <br /><br />Nobody was getting smacked, just thrown, and these are usually finishing techniques. They work better if you thump somebody's nose or temple and drop them while they are dealing with that. But with several, you can't take the time to whack each one soundly, you have to avoid getting tackled. Going to the ground has its uses, but not so much if you are one against four.Steve Perryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12079658447270792228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29640480.post-57729879765248708152009-08-12T11:17:11.735-07:002009-08-12T11:17:11.735-07:00In the spectrum of "doesn't know anything...In the spectrum of "doesn't know anything" (zero) to "martial arts expert" (ten), I'm hovering somewhere around one, maybe one point five on a good day. Bear that in mind when I comment.<br /><br />Watching the video, it seemed to me that his main tactic was to disable his opponent's immediate offensive capability (grab the knife, twist the wrist, whichever), then make a compound move to put the guy down while getting behind him (presumably out of reach of further action from punches or kicks, which are hard to deliver aft). Watching the one guy get thrown to the ground by the throat looked particularly uncomfortable.J.D. Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07031474024284784846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29640480.post-90640143287355119822009-08-11T21:35:53.855-07:002009-08-11T21:35:53.855-07:00Martial artists who have spent a lot of time trai...Martial artists who have spent a lot of time training are more impressed with this demo than people who don't know anything at all. That's because they can see what's really going on. <br /><br />Real stuff is ugly, and you don't get the neat Bruce Lee bird-kiai pose between attackers.<br /><br />You can feel that third guy hit the ground in your chair at home watching it on the video ...<br /><br />It's why I started training in silat -- I knew some stuff, and realized when I saw it that it wasn't nearly as much as I'd thought.<br /><br />You did notice that the reason the guy hiding behind the dumpster got the first response was because he had a knife in his hand, right?Steve Perryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12079658447270792228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29640480.post-37923661253236454262009-08-11T21:27:51.136-07:002009-08-11T21:27:51.136-07:00Same thing sometimes when he's demonstrating s...Same thing sometimes when he's demonstrating something live: it looks like his dummy is just giving up, faking it for him. But when you're being the dummy, you realize it's just not so...Irenehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10812044801600397800noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29640480.post-68699989659998912902009-08-11T20:32:07.082-07:002009-08-11T20:32:07.082-07:00I don't know, around the 20 second mark it loo...I don't know, around the 20 second mark it looks like he throws the guy by his junk. I'm kind of cringing still.<br />Of course I watched it like eight times...Travishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15353783271100674218noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29640480.post-108491901564323492009-08-11T18:28:54.571-07:002009-08-11T18:28:54.571-07:00Yeah, not something that would galvanize movie the...Yeah, not something that would galvanize movie theater audiences.AF1noreply@blogger.com